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  1. Rick
    January 30, 2017

    What’s your point? That there are dishonest people in the world and some of them are cops? Why would police be any more honest than any other group? Doctors steal drugs, bankers embezzle from their banks, store clerks steal shoes, lawyers steal from their clients, the heads of charities steal, our Ex President and his bride have stolen hundreds of millions through their foundations, it goes on everywhere all the time. It’s a shame but I doubt it will hurt donations any.

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    • David Meyer Lindenberg
      January 30, 2017

      I can’t help but think that if more people shared your relaxed outlook, the electoral season would’ve been a lot less annoying.

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      • Rick
        January 31, 2017

        No, I don’t have a relaxed attitude st all. I hope this petty crook loses his pension and spends time looking through bars the other way. I just don’t understand why you thought this was worthy of an article. I get the anti-police slant of this site but is this the best you could do? I’m not even a cop fan but the efforts you all go to to smear cops gets tiring.

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      • David Meyer Lindenberg
        January 31, 2017

        Heh. I write something critical of one cop and commenters call me a cop-smearing police hater. I write something mildly supportive of another and I’m an authoritarian cop lover.

        It’s almost like I go to some effort to judge cases on the merits instead of playing the partisanship game. As for why I thought Gober was worthy of an article, I did say so, didn’t I? There’s an object lesson here for police reformers.

        We tend to scoff at the notion that “bad apples” are all that ail police departments, and when the mean-ass editor and I interview a cop, we usually make a point of asking about it. We also have a tendency to want big, dramatic change, something I criticized in another post you may feel is unworthy of your time because it’s not about a big, dramatic case of abuse. But individual cops can do a lot of damage, even in police departments that are otherwise clean and take quick steps to deal with corruption. The big picture isn’t all that’s important, and your comments suggest you have yet to grasp that point.

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  2. Eva
    January 30, 2017

    So if you pronounce his last name as “Goober” I believe it would be an unfortunate but an apropos coincidence considering the circumstances….

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  3. WJM
    January 31, 2017

    I mean, you write a lot of awfully positive things about the program, but this is a pretty quick rush to judgment about the executive director of the program for almost a decade who apparently grew it from 50 kids to over a thousand.

    It would be one thing if he was spending the money on hookers and blow, but clicking on the links and the links-within-links, these expenses could easily be pretty innocent. Treating an escort to a $200 meal at Olive Garden would be pretty damning, but I’d be a lot less inclined to give a shit if it were a meal for volunteers or at-risk kids. There’s not much there to suggest that the facts are otherwise, and what context is provided at least somewhat supports that:
    “Investigators found several odd charges made to the PAL account, including hotel rooms for PAL trips, gift cards and dinners where alcohol was served to a select number of volunteers, the sheriff’s office says.”

    And sure, some money was spent on clothes and sunglasses, but he claims that was to replace personal items damaged during program activities. Maybe he’s a scumbag, maybe not, maybe folks are just upset that he spent money on doing nice things for poor black kids without authorization. The context provided in the linked articles doesn’t really foreclose either possibility. Were the sports tickets, gift cards, and “custom-made calendars” bought for personal use or for at-risk kids in the program? We make an assumption either way. What does appear rather clear is that it’s a good program and this guy ran it for years and grew it into something. It’s disconcerting that we assume the worst.

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    • David Meyer Lindenberg
      January 31, 2017

      I admire your willingness to fact-check me. We need more of that. But I think you missed the sheriff’s statement, available under “underlined his strong support of the PAL”:

      https://www.facebook.com/StJohnsSheriffOffice/posts/1416094245080980

      What’s more, First Coast News says it got its hands on the report from the internal investigation. They say it not only corroborates the information from the sheriff’s office, but suggests tens of thousands more may have been embezzled.

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